Just Who Are These Libyan Rebels?

Iraq was at its most violent in 2006 and 2007, just as the U.S. “surge” of 30,000 additional troops into the country was getting underway. A West Point analysis of the foreign fighters involved in the increasing carnage showed that the nation sending the most militants to Iraq from August 2006 to August 2007, was, on a per-capita basis, Libya.

Drilling down into the data, the December 2007 examination from the U.S. Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center showed that nearly all of the Libyan fighters came from the northeastern part of the country, which is where the rebels we are now helping hail from. It’s a small sample, but something to keep in mind.

An April 2008 cable from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli to Washington reported that the government of Libya (GOL) had spurned U.S. offers of “soft power” cooperation to improve living conditions for those in eastern Libya. Washington hoped such efforts might dampen the residents’ fervor to head to Iraq to kill Americans. Such actions, a senior Libyan diplomat told his U.S. counterpart, would be counter-productive because it would raise fears of foreign meddling, and remind Libyans of their colonial past under the harsh thumbs of Italy and the Ottoman Empire.

The U.S. diplomat suggested Washington could help by funding development efforts, “possibly to be implemented by quasi-governmental NGO’s such as the Qadhafi” — as in Muammar — “Development Foundation.” No thanks, the Libyan diplomat responded.

“The best course for the U.S. would be to publicly `ignore’ extremism in eastern Libya…claiming it would `go away,’” the Libyan told the American diplomat. “The GOL’s strategy appears to combine reliance on traditional efforts by security organizations to monitor and disrupt extremists’ activities while engaging in significant development programs to improve socio-economic conditions enough to blunt the appeal of the extremist message.”

The U.S. diplomat thought otherwise. “The policy of deliberately impoverishing the east to ensure political quiescence has not worked,” concluded the cable, recently released by Wikileaks. “While senior regime figures appear to have recognized that the east merits more attention and investment, the reported ability of radical imams to propagate messages urging support for and participation in jihad despite security organizations’ efforts, suggests that claims by senior GOL officials that the east is under control may be overstated.”

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  • allthingsinaname

    “An April 2008 cable from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli to Washington reported that the government of Libya (GOL) had spurned U.S. offers of “soft power” cooperation to improve living conditions for those in eastern Libya. Washington hoped such efforts might dampen the residents’ fervor to head to Iraq to kill Americans.”
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    I wonder why the US didn’t do the same thing to dampen the fervor for Americans Civilians going to Iraq To kill anything that moved.

  • conversets

    It’s a small sample, but something to keep in mind.

    Your stuff could use less heat and more light. Rather than grasping for whatever happens to fit your preconceived perceptions of the issue or players, try digging a bit deeper for some substance.

  • michaelfury
  • Ivy_B

    Guess nothing at all has changed in three to four years? Goodness knows that’s true here in the US.

  • http://elvisberg.wordpress.com Elvis Elvisberg

    Co-sign.
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    This number has been rattling around for weeks, maybe longer. Are the people who went to Iraq typical of Eastern Libyans, or was this like Castro sending a flotilla of criminals to Florida? Do folks who study Libya believe that there’s deep, longstanding animus for the US & the West in Eastern Libya? If so, is it being ameliorated by what’s going on now?
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    It reads like you’re just grasping for anything you can find that provides a platform to snark at the mission (ie, the name chosen, the fact that it’s not a war). But before the US, NATO, and the UNSC acted, you were writing about “No-drama Obama’s dithering over — or is it carefully pondering? — the wisdom of imposing a no-fly zone.” In a separate post entitled “Libya? Your Move, Mr. President,” you subtly posted an image of Piccasso’s Guernica, and quoted three pro-intervention writers saying things like “The West’s refusal to come to the aid of Libya’s lightly-armed freedom fighters as they face planes, tanks, and heavy weapons may turn the Libyan civil war into the first great betrayal of the 21st century, reminiscent of many that stained the last century.”
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    You’re looking like Newt Gingrich here.

  • textee

    Look at what that hair-plugged leftist buffoon named Biden is now saying:

    “I want to make it clear! And I made it clear to the President if he takes this nation to war with Libya without Congressional approval.
    I will make it my business to impeach him…That’s a fact!!! That is a fact!!! … Libya is no immediate threat to the United States of America!!!”

    Enjoy the video, boys and girls. http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2011/03/21/joe-biden-in-2007-war-without-congressional-authorization-should-warrant-impeachment/

  • chupkar

    OK. I am about to go on a self imposed news blackout for an undeterminated period of time. Who wants to join me?

  • lreed580

    In 2007, the population of Libya was 6,036,914. If you dig into the information above, the actual number of “militants” from Libya that went into Iraq was 112. Draw your own conclusions as to why this was framed in the manner that it was by the author.

    Also, there’s another study cited in that same report that disagrees with the West Point assessment and puts the number at fewer.

    I saw an interview with one of the “rebels”, and he does not want to be referred to as such. Also, some in the media refer to them as a “rag-tag” group. They are comprised of lawyers, teachers, regular blue-collar workers, who by all accounts are extremely grateful for the intervention of the international coalition, and treated the pilots whose plane crashed with nothing but respect. Granted they are lacking in military knowledge, but I don’t think that warrants them being referred to as “rag-tag”. They’re fighting for a chance to implement democracy in their country.

  • allthingsinaname

    What do mean self imposed? Have you seen any factual news of late to blackout? Really, Have you?

  • allthingsinaname

    But he said drilling down! He must have been looking for something and missed this detail.

  • chupkar

    112??? This fancy dancy graph is over 112 “fighters”? Man, there really is enough in the world to write about without fabricating a “concern”. I haven’t seen a blog post on Japan in days.

  • nflfoghorn

    He submitted a letter to inform Congress, as was done in the prior two admins.

  • chupkar

    Well, I think that is my problem. I”m so disgusted with the amount of complete NON-news I am seeing, I’m going to have to ban myself from all sources. It’s beginning to be bad for my blood pressure. Add the fact that peole like Michele Bachmann are the folks officially doing PACs for Pres’s and it’s just too crazy to watch until I get my BP down. Way too aggravating for words.

  • allthingsinaname

    Yes I see that he changed the Graph to be more dramatic.

  • allthingsinaname

    “Saudi Arabia was by far the most common nationality of the fighters’ in this sample; 41% (244) of the 595 records that included the fighter’s nationality indicated they were of Saudi Arabian origin.”
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    Saudia Arabia, he makes it look like hardly was there, well they are our friends right?
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    You know Mr Thompson, you have pi$$ed me off. Talk about deceit.

  • conversets

    Do you make it a practice to lie? Or is this a special occasion for you?

  • upyernoz

    by thompson’s logic, minneapolis is run by al-shabab:

    http://upyernoz.blogspot.com/2011/03/beware-small-sample-sizes.html

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