War With Libya Looms

-- Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments

After weeks of warning from the Pentagon about the downsides of launching a no-fly zone over Libya, the U.S. and its major European allies declared war on Muammar Gaddafi and his forces holding on to power in the north African nation. NATO surveillance aircraft have been scouring Libya for potential targets for more than a week. Warplanes from the U.S. and other allies, flying from any of several bases in Italy in the region, could begin taking out Libyan air defense sites and tank formations within hours. But U.S. officers suggested that U.S. action might not be imminent, and that other NATO warplanes might strike first, perhaps aided by U.S. cruise missiles from several of six American warships — and a submarine — in the Mediterranean.

On Friday, Gaddafi’s government declared an “immediate ceasefire and stoppage of all military operations” against the rebels. If the words are followed by action — and Libya halts its attacks on opponents — that is likely to freeze the situation on the ground. And that will complicate efforts to force Gaddafi out of power.

The U.N. declaration approved Thursday night proclaimed that the U.N. alliance would halt Gaddafi loyalists from killing those opposed to his rule by “all necessary measures” – a clear warning that air strikes are likely against tanks and other Libyan military assets on the ground. That means the U.S. and its allies are declaring a “no-drive zone” as well as a no-fly zone in contested areas of the country. It might be hard to tell them apart in any opening volley. “A no-fly zone requires certain actions taken to protect the planes and the pilots,” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Thursday during a visiting to neighboring Tunisia, “including bombing targets like the Libyan defense systems.”

U.S. firepower has been growing in Gaddafi’s neighborhood in recent days. The attack submarine USS Providence has transited the Suez Canal and is now in the Mediterranean Sea, Navy officers said, as a part of the carrier USS Enterprise strike group (which can carry up to 300 Tomahawks). The carrier remains in the Arabian Sea, but its 45 F-18s could reach Libya with aerial refueling. The Providence lobbed cruise missiles at targets in both Afghanistan and Iraq in the opening years of those wars.

The U.S. role in any military action would be commanded by Adm. Samuel Locklear, chief of U.S. Navy forces in Europe and Africa, from his perch aboard his command vessel, the USS Mount Whitney, now on station in the central Mediterranean. Beyond NATO allies Britain, France and the U.S., Qatar and the United Arab Emirates also might participate in action against Libya. “We’ve been massing in the region for a couple of weeks,” a Navy officer said late Thursday. “We’re ready.”

But Gaddafi also professes to be ready. “Any foreign military act against Libya will expose all air and maritime traffic in the Mediterranean Sea to danger and civilian and military facilities will become targets of Libya’s counterattack,” his government said. “The Mediterranean basin will face danger not just in the short term, but also in the long term.”

President Obama conferred via phone with British Prime Minister David Cameron and French President Nicolas Sarkozy Thursday night, and they agreed that Libya must immediately comply with the Security Council resolution calling on him to stop attacking the rebels. Obama discussed military options with his National Security Council.

U.S. lawmakers who had pushed the U.S. to enter a third war in a Muslim land hailed the U.N.’s action. “With Gaddafi’s forces moving towards Benghazi, we must immediately work with our friends in the Arab League and in NATO to enforce this resolution and turn the tide before it is too late,” Sens. John Kerry, D-Mass., Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., and John McCain, R-Ariz., said in a joint statement. “We must also build a bipartisan consensus here at home to support the President in taking the swift and decisive measures necessary to stop Gaddafi.”

The lengthy debate over coming to the aid of the Libyan rebels has left the U.N. alliance with a tougher challenge than if it had acted earlier, when Gaddafi’s forces were on the run. Because he has recaptured much of the territory he lost in recent days – and momentum is clearly on his side – some U.S. officials fear the U.N. action “only guarantees a stalemate.”

A rebel spokesman concurred. “Our demand for a no-fly zone would have been sufficient two weeks ago,” Essam Gheriani told the Washington Post. “Now the need is to hit Gaddafi’s land troops and tanks that are laying siege to Libyan cities and stop their advance toward Benghazi. Time is in his favor, not ours.” While the resolution passed 10 to 0, there were five abstentions, including China, Germany and Russia. That suggests the international community is not united in the Libyan operation, especially if it drags on.

It’s clear there was substantial reluctance to enter this fray inside the Pentagon, a mood made clear in recent weeks by both Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. But the military, as it always does, will salute and carry out whatever orders they are given in the coming hours.

So it was left to outsiders to say publicly what many in uniform can only whisper. Andrew Exum of the Center for a New American Security, an Army veteran of the wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq, voiced some of that unease. “It really does seem like we are going to go to war with another country in the Arabic-speaking world. Incredible,” he wrote on his blog Thursday night. “I should be thankful for the broad international coalition we have put together, and for the fact that a large ground invasion is unlikely, but I mainly just have a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach.”

Related Topics: libya, no-fly zone, National Security
  • Latest on Battleland

    Army photo / Sgt. Michael J. MacLeod

    Humpin’ It…And Jammin’ It…

    Reuters

    China’s ‘Security Dilemma’ Risks Arms Race in Asia

    TOKYO – A shooting war with China may not be inevitable, but a dangerous arms escalation seems a dead certainty. That’s the take from a rare public discussion here this week among naval experts from Japan, the U.S. and China.

    Chris Hondros / Getty Images

    Mental Ills Top Reason U.S. Troops Now Hospitalized

    Four of the top five non-combat medical conditions sending troops to the hospital in 2011 were mental ailments, the Pentagon reports:

  • Cliff

    What likelihood that we’re going to get drawn into a third godawful land war, do you think?
    .
    Also, this:
    .
    Sens. John Kerry, D-Mass., Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., and John McCain, R-Ariz., said in a joint statement
    .
    can’t be good.

  • http://www.simonvinkenoog.nl/beeld/Yogi%20-%20Annelies%20Rigter.jpg yogi

    My thoughts exactly.

  • http://www.simonvinkenoog.nl/beeld/Yogi%20-%20Annelies%20Rigter.jpg yogi

    Out of curiosity what sort of participation would Qatar and the United Arab Emirates provide? I mean I understand they’re both small countries, but do they have navies with aircraft carriers that will be in the Med? Or is it in name and maybe money only?

  • Art Pepper

    Yeah, there’s no way this could have any unintended consequences.

  • http://jcapan.wordpress.com jcapan

    What Digby says:

    This is not a war to save people. If we cared about that we would be intervening in Cote D’Ivoire, where there has been horrible violence on the same level as that in Libya. There is human misery all over the planet that we can’t even be bothered to look at, much less intervene. So let’s not kid ourselves about what this is about

    If people want to talk honestly about this and admit what it is we are really doing then perhaps, as a democracy, we can hash this out properly. But using the uprising as an excuse to “intervene” on behalf of Exxon and BP has nothing to do with humanitarianism and liberals need to disabuse themselves of this illusion once and for all.

    We are in the midst of a fight for energy/resources and it’s reaching crisis proportions. As we speak, we are watching one of our allegedly “clean” sources endanger millions of people with potentially lethal radiation. We are already fighting wars in the middle east over oil and it looks like we’re not done yet. You would think that with this, plus climate change, we’d be sufficiently motivated to face the problem and put everything we have into dealing with it. Instead, we’re playing games with people’s lives and futures. The planet will probably survive, but it’s not a good sign for our species.

  • apr2563

    It is up to congress and journalists to ask the hard questions this time. What exactly are we committing to? What are our goals? When do we know we have accomplished our goals? When do we get out? What is the potential cost in human lives and treasure?
    All those questions that weren’t asked by the traditional media before the Iraq invasion. Please don’t look at this as another video game where reporters can be embedded.

  • Ike Jakson

    What utter rot? Will Joe Klein lead the Swampland invading troops?

  • Paul-no not that one

    As the talk gets a little louder about the waste that is Afghanistan (from republicans anyway) the cheering grows for Libya.
    .
    What a cockeyed country we can be.

  • gysgt213

    This will work out well.

  • freeinpa

    “What likelihood that we’re going to get drawn into a third godawful land war, do you think?”
    .
    But the real question is how the left is going to blame this on Bush?

  • hippooath

    Who’s betting that we’re going to be left holding the bag if the rebels that might replace the dictator turn out to be nothing more than the same?
    .
    In the very same continent there are many countries with many aweful conflicts. We just don’t have any investments we need to protect.
    .
    So here we are again – under the pretence of human suffering and ‘freedom’ we’re dragged into another conflict, burning billions and the countries that will most likely benefit from this (like China) is not contribution one cent to their liberation.

  • hippooath

    Plus there are protests in Jemen and Bahrain and their regimes are using force to stop it. What’s our policy for them? It’s not like we’re going to bomb for their rights to ‘freedom’.

  • hippooath

    Yemen

  • http://tisias.wordpress.com tisias

    If we cared about democracy, or if the UN was impartial, we would have saved Cote D’Ivoire from the point of no return it has become now.

  • newfreedomblog

    The polls (like tea leaves) must be predicting that Obama should now “act”. That is the only answer or conclusion we can come up with at this time nearly 20 days into the initial up-rising of the rebels in Libya.
    .
    Sitting back for weeks with our super carriers and other military assets right off Gaddafi’s coastline didn’t cause him concern or pause. He’s a mad-man who should have been taken out 20 or 30 years ago, but we didn’t then either.
    .
    Comparing this to the Ivory Coast’s civil war is equally insane as well.
    .

    “The Ivorian Civil War is a civil war in Côte d’Ivoire that began on September 19, 2002. Although most of the fighting ended by late 2004, the country remains split in two, with a rebel-held north and a government-held south. French troops were supposed to be brought into Côte d’Ivoire to help resolve the situation. But they played a key role in worsening the tension by destroying the 2 aircraft of the Ivorian army; aircraft that were bombing the rebel camps to free the country. Hostility increased and raids on foreign troops and civilians rose.

    .
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivorian_Civil_War
    .
    Digby is basically a Code Pinker without the pink dress on.
    .
    What does common sense say? That should be the only question for Americans. We are already in two wars, we have spent trillions now. It is time we step aside and let other countries lead in this specific situation. The ships are already there, so let us provide support (a place to land), otherwise, that’s it.
    .
    2nd common sense option is a smart bomb. Explain to Gaddafi he has exactly 4 hours to pack as many turbans as he can, put as much money in suitcases as he can and get out. Otherwise, a much more sophisticated bomb will be headed his way, and this time we shall not miss.

  • hippooath

    I see – you realize that we’re overstreatched and can’t really do it but you still want to blame Obama for ‘taking so long’.
    .
    Smartbombs. If it really was that simple.

  • koabd

    This is a fight that France and the UK have been spoiling for, so let them have it. What I find amazing, though, is that these two countries — France in particular — have been so hot to withdraw or limit their troops’ participation in Afghanistan, yet they’re so intent on bombing the hell out of Libya. I guess real problems — Afghan heroine flooding European streets, radicalization of marginalized European Muslims — pales in comparison theoretical problem of North African refugees (which conservative European parties — especially in France — have demagogued).

  • newfreedomblog

    Oh poor hippo. Our “smart bombs” and satellites in the sky are now so accurate, that if you are sitting on your toilet just under the skylight in your bathroom, our Air Force has the ability to not only remove you from the toilet. But blow pieces of your a$$ all the way over to Libya.

  • newfreedomblog

    Oops….“Ok, maybe we were acting to quickly” so says Gadaffi.
    .
    http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/03/18/libya-formin-idINWEA950120110318
    .

    Libya declares ceasefire after UN resolution

    .
    We’ll never know, but I’ll put my money on a smart bomb threat. Worked the first time too. Problem is it should have been threatened weeks ago. Good job Obambi!!

  • afguy

    If you’re dumb enough to stay put for several hours, so the satellite can find you, and then so the AF can target you (and confirm that you’re still there)… then yes, that will work.
    .
    You DO know that spy satellites can’t “hover” over a fixed point, don’t you, Rusty? And they’ve been up there long enough that even amateur astronomers know their orbital schedules and paths. Those are GREAT at mapping and checking for changes in an area to indicate construction and movement.
    .
    The ones that do have geo-synchronous orbits are communications or relay satellites, some 22,500 miles out.
    .
    ‘Way too far for the “gnat’s eyelash” resolution needed to identify individual people.

  • mccainfluffer

    Sure, we can’t afford to help subsidize heating bills for senior citizens next winter – but when it comes to wars, money is never an issue or problem. Bombs for victory!

  • http://lauravelez.wordpress.com elvee72

    The United Arab Emirates owns a fleet of refurbished Chinook and Apache choppers and various other Boeing aircraft…… of course they are not sold the most modern technology, or all of the “bells and whistles”… however they still are pretty mission capable.

  • http://lauravelez.wordpress.com elvee72

    The United Arab Emirates owns a fleet of refurbished Chinook and Apache choppers and various other Boeing aircraft…… of course they are not sold the most modern technology, or all of the “bells and whistles”… however they still are very mission capable.

  • http://www.simonvinkenoog.nl/beeld/Yogi%20-%20Annelies%20Rigter.jpg yogi

    Thank you for the information, elvee72.

  • http://maxistene.wordpress.com maxisten

    Smartbombing will work. Gadaffi is already warned it will be done. He will flee the country. He will have to find a country that is already isolated and does not care what he has done and under no circumstances will give him over any international force/court.

    There is probably no country in the region he can trust to give him the security/shelter he will need.

    USA will not be drawn into a third war.

    Libya will not become a second Somalia. It will become a true democracy, but it will take a few years.

  • http://projektparsifal.wordpress.com projektparsifal

    Do you really think that bombing helps? Your bombs kill one “innocent” Libyan and you will have an anti-western mood swing in the entire area.
    Just let Gaddafi finish the job. He might be the lesser problem. Democracy in Libya in just a couple of years?
    You’re kidding. Did Iraq and Afghanistan teach you nothing?

    Democracy requires a cultural background and development. Tell me why it is that only in western countries real democracy exists? Muslim countries and Democracy that still take a couple of hundred years (if ever).

    And what do you wnat to do about Bahrain ? Syria ? Saudi-Arabia ? Or perhaps China ?

  • http://maxistene.wordpress.com maxisten

    1) Libya is much more western orientated than Afghanistan and Iraq. A lot of the libyans want a western life/values. They want prosperity and a good life.

    2) The uprising comes from within. It is not forced upon the country. When this is over and Gadaffi is gone, his followers will not have any kind of basis or any group to reinstate.

    3) The country will face conditions from other countries to receive support and help building a democracy.

    4) It will not be done in a couple of years, it will take some years, but this is a golden opportunity the west should embrace and make sure the transistion goes smooth and fast, and with success. There are smart ways to do it.

    Even Egypt will surprise us. Young egyptians are much more modern and drawn to western values than you’d might think. But they will keep a lot of their traditions and lifestyle. They will not join the ratrace to make other kinds of dictators rich, by working day and night to pay for one financial crises after another. They will not fall into that trap. Or be trapped inside that idea. They will go for the good life. And who knows, maybe the next level of enlightenment will rise from these states?

  • michaeljjordan

    It’s always dangerous to draw historic parallels, but can Benghazi 2011 avoid the fate of Budapest 1956? http://jordanink.wordpress.com/2011/03/18/benghazi-2011-budapest-1956/

  • http://projektparsifal.wordpress.com projektparsifal

    Your conclusions are interesting:

    1) How comes ? Due to 40 years of Gaddafi perhaps?

    2) Are you sure. What do we really now about the motivation of the rebels. What about the tribal structure of Lybia ? Look for Afghanistan to see how this works.

    3) Which once again can only be the West. Or a you thinking of the Arabian League ? Or China ?

    4) As smart as Afghanistan or Iraq ?

    5) Egypt – What has changed ? Mubarak gone but Military still in charge. And is the opposition an allout democratic opposition ? Not at all (see the Muslim Brotherhood). The max. outcome will be “democracy” a la Turkey (if we are lucky).

    6) Of course they will go for the good life – but who said that democracy is only about having a good life ?
    That’s exactly the point were they will be struggelling.
    And they lack the culture to cope with it.

    It is time that the West goes back to Realpolitik. Emotions and wishfull thinking in politics are prone to mess everything up.

    Simply acknowledge that democracy is not for every culture (especially not for muslims) on this planet and we will have less war.

  • http://spradotimes.wordpress.com sporadotimes

    He is ready to act after country was already subjected to civil war and burned to the ground…after he implemented via United Nations prohibition of air space usage allowing use exclusively to Gaddafi’s air attacks and destruction of rebel army while at the same time prohibiting assistance from already liberated neighboring countries..and why !? Because rebel army didn’t tolerate Jewmerican corruption and therefore rebels needed to be destroyed to extend when those will seat at negotiation table with Jewmerica. LIBERATORS WILL ENSLAVE REBELS BY PUSHING FORWARD GREAT ISRAEL’S AGENDA AND OWN OIL $$

    DICTATOR OBAMA = STALIN = BUSH — USA = USSR….LEARN WHO, WHY, AND HOW RUINED YOU…FROM 911 TO AUSTRALIAN FLOODS – WHITE AMERICAN REFUGEES — ARIZONA SHOOTING – WIKILEAKS is CIA — ESKIMO SARAH PALIN’S “BRIDGE TO NOWHERE” — LEARN ABOUT REAL HUMAN FLASH EATING MACHINE OR SO CALLED ECONOMY — BREAST FEEDING INSANITY — CIVIL RIOTS IN ARAB COUNTRIES — NEWS/MEDIA or simply BIG FAT WORLD OF LIES !!??? — NEW WORLD ORDER POLITICAL PARTIES(how, who, why or they are not there for you, but instead to seal your faith for their parliament pay$$$ scale !!!! ) http://avsecbostjan.wordpress.com/ or http://avsecbostjan.blogspot.com

  • newyorklyles

    In Iraq, the no fly zone was designed to stop fighting from either side, pinpointing specific opposition groups. It wasn’t designed to allow one group to have an advantage over the other in a counter attack as seems to be the case in Libya. Because of the Libyan no fly zone I am afraid they’ll be cleansing— the killing of opposition—within rebel groups and pro Kaddafi loyalist and dissenters to both. I don’t think this was well thought out and the potential quagmire could prove treacherous.

    I believe the Arab world being weak kneed in addressing their own, will leave the west fully exposed and to blame as conditions on the ground deteriorate, fertilizer for radical elements within the Arab subcultures. . Obama and the coalition may have grossly overestimated their ability to resolve the situation. It’s isn’t even clear what the political platform of the rebels is or the number of its voices.

blog comments powered by Disqus