Marines Handling "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" Repeal Smartly

Gen. James Amos talks with Marines in Afghanistan in December / DoD photo

The Marines declared themselves, in a Pentagon survey conducted last year before the congressional vote to end “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” to be the service most opposed to letting openly gay men and women serve in uniform. It’s amazing what a little leadership can do. Friday morning, the Marines’ top officer declared his 200,000-strong force will be up to speed on the new policy by early June, and that the change hasn’t affected recruiting or retention within his ranks at all. Talk about making a mountain out of a foxhole.

“The law has changed, we follow the law,” General James Amos said over breakfast. “We’re the Marines, and that’s what we do for a living.”

Before Congress voted to lift the ban, Amos also had expressed reservations about changing the policy amid two wars. He raised eyebrows when he said lifting the ban could prove to be a “distraction” that could get Marines killed on the battlefield.

But, he maintained, the corps saluted smartly once Congress voted to lift the 17-year old ban two months ago. Amos was on the ground in Afghanistan when it happened. “The law changed while we were in Afghanistan and — 20,000 Marines on the ground — we looked at just about 12,000 of them in the eye,” he said. “We had all the commanders and senior staff NCOs and looked them in the eye and this is what I did: I said `Everybody pay very close attention to these eyeballs — look, this is the United States Marine Corps and I’m the commandant — this is what we’re going to do, we’re going to step out smartly, the law has changed.’ Every time I did that, I looked around the audience — it didn’t matter whether it was a large group or small group — and my senior leaders moved their heads north and south” in agreement. “You give them the two-finger eyeball poke and every one of them says, `Sir, we’ve got it — we’re going to do this thing.’”

When asked if any Marines have fled the force or if recruiting has been hurt by the change, Amos was blunt. “I haven’t had any indication yet at all — not at all” of such an impact. “I think it’d be naive to think that somewhere down the road there’s not going to be issues — I think there probably will be, in probably all the services — but I don’t think its going to be of a magnitude that’s going to cause much more than a blip.”

Marine lawyers and leaders are now being instructed on how to implement the change, with training of the rank and file to begin soon. “I promised if the law changed, the Marine Corps is going to aggressively pursue this thing,” Amos said, recalling his congressional comments last fall. “I didn’t say it in my testimony, but in my heart of hearts I went, `And the Marine Corps will lead the other services in this thing’ — and that’s exactly what we’ve done.”

Of course, that’s pretty easy for the Marines — they are the smallest service. But the betting is all four services will wrap up their “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” training by late summer. That’ll be following by certification from Pentagon leaders — and President Obama — that  lifting the ban won’t harm national security. Sixty days after that certification, “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” will be history.

Wouldn’t it be grand if Congress could be just a little bit more like the Marines?

Related Topics: don't ask don't tell, james amos, marines, National Security
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  • afguy

    But… I THOUGHT the difficulty of doing this was supposed to bring the military to its collelctive knees.
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    What happened? Did someone over-hype the problem?!!??
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    Tell me that didn’t happen…

  • nflfoghorn

    The Marines may be the smallest unit, but it’s the one most resistant to major change (see also Integration of African-American Troops).
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    And through this report it’s clear that the military likely overstated the case against DADT. IOW, the “cootie factor” is largely ignored by about 99.5% of those currently serving.

  • nflfoghorn

    I mean what’s next – some guy objecting to Greco-Roman wrestling a girl in a school setting for religious reasons?
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    Wait, what?

  • newfreedomblog

    Gee, as the world seems to be imploding upon itself. The middle east is in total chaos. What do we want our military to worry about?
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    How to be sensitive to Homosexuals. How sweet.

  • nflfoghorn

    Being a deliberately contrarian dumbf___ must take lots of practice, RustFreep. I admire your Intellectual Superiority ™.

  • allthingsinaname

    You need a l;ife

  • nflfoghorn

    @ 4.2: I think he lives it through us, purportedly to tick us off. Whatever floats his boat I guess.

  • afguy

    Rusty, doesn’t look like they’re very worried about this either.

  • gysgt213

    Some in government following the law is a cause for celebration.

  • deconstructiva

    That was a fun story, nfl. I’ll bet the kid knew he was going to get his ass kicked by the girl and backed out. His teammates would’ve hazed him so bad if he had lost to her.

  • hollywoodmeme

    Commandant Amos may be “stepping out smartly” but gay marines are saying “Do Ask, Do Tell” now at http://OutMilitary.com – the New Social Network for Gay Service Members.

  • http://www.peterhsu.org Peter

    It’s called leadership. When your boss is about to make a mistake, you point out so vigorously and forcefully. Once he’s made his decision, however, you step out smartly and take responsibility for implementing the plan.
    .
    This can be confusing, because it’s the exact opposite of the way things work in politics. Were Amos a politician, he’d be dragging his feet and taking every opportunity to point out flaws in the program in order to score cheap political points. Instead as a leader he’s working to ensure the success of the program, even though he violently disagrees with it.

  • http://meesterniceguy.wordpress.com meesterniceguy

    Wasn’t Greco: folk-style / collegiate is vastly different. More action, less hugging.
    .
    That said, I disagree with this kid and, as a wrestler, I feel he insulted every one of the other competitors, including those he beat to earn a States berth. Make a moral stand like this in a dual meet. At States, everyone busted their butt to get there, and lots of these kids train at insane levels just for that chance to step on the mat. If I’m going to States, I’m there to wrestle hard and fulfill my dream.
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    Obviously, he sees it differently. In which case, maybe he should have given his slot to the kid he beat in qualifiers. It’s not like he didn’t know ahead of time who he’d have in his bracket.

  • http://2thirdsrocks.wordpress.com 2thirdsrocks

    The Marine Corps will be okay. Their ability to adapt to any situation will win out. You have to earn the title of Marine, unlike the other branches where you’re in as soon as you step off the bus. If a shirtlifter can pass basic training so be it. Little twinkletoes will never make it, so no biggie. The problems will show themselves in the the Army, Navy, and the elite chairforce. But then they already are reduced to less than what they once were, thanks to angry mothers who complained that the rules and training were just too rough for their little boys and girls, and of course, political correctness.
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    The Marines police themselves. They run their own show. they will remain the few, the proud, and the toughest M-fers on the planet.

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