Pentagon: OK To Dump "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"

But The American People don’t want this….

McCain will say this study doesn’t go far enough…he’ll want another, and another…into perpetuity.

If this had been released on WikiLeaks would everyone else in DC now be against it? (Besides the R’s in the Senate, of course, but that’s de rigueur.) But it will be fun watching McCain twisting around in the wind like a weathervane. Now the troops’ leaders have spoken but whither Sen. Get Off My Lawn?

…great minds…

…from the GOP POV ;)

Let’s have a study to study more studies before we make a decision that will impact millions of The American People.
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Or let’s go ask Ken Mehlman. :)

OK, the Pentagon has spoken. The right was waiting on the Pentagon to release the findings. Does the Pentagon’s study only matter if it backs up the positions of those opposed to ending DADT? Will the head of the Marines have his way instead of going with the consensus? Face it, as long as one person is against ending DADT there will be calls for endless study and the status quo.

the troops, the troops’ leaders, the joint chiefs, former joint chiefs, the public, the president. Literally everyone who matters has spoken out in favor of dropping DADT. and then there’s McCain who’s flipped on it for no sensible reason that I can fathom. I can’t wait until he responds to this and makes another excuse for keeping the policy in place. then we get to watch the montage reel of McCain flipping his position and not even bothering to fake a justification.
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He’s a disgrace and he has no credibility any longer.

I’m not sending McCain anything for Christmas either.

FTW. It never ends. The only way the R’s move fast is if tax cuts are involved, otherwise forget about it, especially here. Too bad the DADT law (and most others) didn’t have an expiration date. Like the Bush Tax Cuts™.

Will the head of the Marines have his way instead of going with the consensus?
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Well, if you dig into the data, the members of the Marine Corps have the most negative views of a potential repeal of DADT. 43% of Marines overall felt openly gay Marines would negatively affect how their unit works together. That numbers shoots up to 58% if you narrow your focus to the guys with an 03 designator in their MOS (that is, your combat arms guys). You look at something like how trust is affected, 48% of all Marines think there will be a deleterious result, with 51% of the shooters expressing that opinion.
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So, the members of our smallest and most selective branch of the military seem to go against the general trend regarding DADT — as reflected by the Commandant. That said, this type of resistance is embedded in the history of the USMC. While the Army and Navy took African Americans from the Civil War forward, the Marine Corps prohibited the enlistment of blacks until Presidential order at the beginning of World War II. And once the door was forced open to black Marines, the Corps did it’s best to keep them as far in the rear as possible: most black Marines were never forward deployed, relegated to defence batallions stateside.

with 51% of the shooters expressing that opinion.
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Correction — that should be 61%.

“As a related matter, we believe it critical that it be made clear to those who are opposed to repeal, particularly on moral and religious grounds, that their concerns are not
being rejected and that leaders have not turned their backs on them. In the event of repeal, individual Service members are not expected to change their personal religious or moral beliefs about homosexuality; however, they are expected to treat all others with dignity and
respect, consistent with the core values that already exist within each Service. For the U.S. military, these are not new concepts, given the wide variety of views, races, and religions that already exist within the force.”

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Further recommendations………Let the farce be with you

koabd, thank you for that information. It does shed light on a historical POV that I wasn’t aware of. Of course I knew about discrimination in the military back then toward minorities, but I think history has proven their viewpoint both wrong and ultimately harmful. Hopefully, in the near future people will just shake their heads and wonder how people could think like that. I understand (a little) about not wanting to shower with a person that is attracted to the same sex, but we all have to do things we’d prefer not to. MY MIL is a religious fanatic and goes around the house all the time clapping her hands and singing gospel songs. I’m an atheist and have wanted to shove her Bible up her ass on more than one occassion. But I haven’t.

Watch Robert Gates announce the results of the DADT study that may finally repeal this insane piece of legislation:
http://gtcha.me/gHmxNF

But it’s what Presidents McCain, Lieberman, Kyl, and McConnell think that is of the utmost importance, yes?

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“I’m an atheist and have wanted to shove her Bible…on more than one occassion. But I haven’t.”
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Holy Rectal Dysfunction! Don’t act on that urge!

Thanks for the lesson on perspective, koabd. I have a feeling the Marine Corps will have its wayon DADT for now. But I’m wondering why the Pentegon can’t just develop a practice of not enforcing DADT–stop with the discharges, especially in wartime.

Yep. Sounds like what I expected.
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Why, what did you expect?

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/11/dadt-reax.html
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The US is in such good company.
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Personnel Policies Regarding Military Service by Gay Men and Lesbians in NATO and ISAF Partner Nations
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Permit
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Albania, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belguim, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Canada, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Republic of Korea, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Ukraine, United Kingdom
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Exclude
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Bulgaria, Jordan, Poland, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, United States
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Undetermined
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Macedonia
Singapore