Please Don't Tell Anyone…

Aaaand, let the sh!tstorm begin in 3…2…1…

And by sh!tstorm we mean “Rusty, you’re up…”

Perhaps you could have started out with a few of the names history has recorded as the first Muslims who fought for this country, Mr Thompson.
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“On June 17, 1775, Peter Salem (Saleem) born (1750?-1816) a former slave who fought in the Battle of Bunker Hill. The battle was fought at Breed’s Hill according to one story, the colonial troops were near defeat, and British Major John Pitcairn ordered them to surrender. Salem then stepped forward and shot Pitcairn. Pitcairn later died of the wound. Peter Salem got awarded for fighting in the Revolutionary War, and he also fought at Lexington. Peter Salem and Salem (Saleem) Poor were honored for their bravery.
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Peter Salem was born a slave in Framingham, Massachusetts. He had at least two owners in his lifetime. The first owner was Jeremiah Belknap. Belknap sold him to Lawson Buckminister of Framingham. Buckminister allowed Salem to enlist in the colonial army. In exchange for enlisting in the army, Salem received his freedom.
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After receiving his freedom “Peter Buckminister” changed his name to Salem. He was also known as “Salem Prince.” Local legend has it that the name Salem came from a Massachusetts privateering port where all of the sailors went during the Revolutionary War when people were fighting on their boats. History reports that an old Jewish man told the people that the word was like “shalom” which means peace. The name for peace in Arabic is Salaam and Saleem in Arabic means one who is peaceful.
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Salem (Saleem) remained in the army for several years, long enough to fight in the battles of Saratoga and Stony Point. After the war he settled in Leicester, Massachusetts where he barely earned a living weaving cane seats for chairs. He died in the poor house in Framingham in 1816. Postage stamps have been made of Peter Salem and Salem Poor as American Revolutionary war heros.”

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http://www.muslimsinamerica.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=28
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Perhaps this could have given some historical reference to your opening of ……….
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“Please Don’t Tell Anyone…”

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Is it safe to assume that what you direct your above comment is towards perhaps those of us who have asked Muslims in New York to reconsider building a mosque at or very near the grounds of the 9/11 attacks?
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Which specific group of people here in the United States have you addressed this new military appointment for? What did you hope to accomplish?

It’s kind of tough when people label you a racist before you even say anything, isn’t it?

Of the conservatives I know, including many who disagree with me about things like our middle east policy and even the lower Manhattan community center, I can’t think of any who would freak out over the military having a Muslim chaplain. Indeed, I bet they’d be surprised that this is the first given the long record of service shown by people of all religions.

Here let me:

This is an insult to all of those Americans killed in Muslim countries overseas. Its not that I hate the Muslim community, I’m quite aware that its only the fringe group that are terrorists, but can’t you see how this could offend dead soldier’s families and their fellow brother’s in arms.

If you want to pray to Islam, why not go to a mosque off base. The position this man is in is way tooo close to those who are grieving. Sorry we just blew up your brother in arms, but here’s Ackmed’s brother to console your grief.

Besides, how do we know this Imam doesn’t secrete support terrorism or jihad. Did you even bother, Thomson, to investigate the paper trail to see who he has donated to or his friends to see if they possess any extreme views about 9/11.

This is a travesty. As if they haven’t done enough to this country, now they are invading our armed forces.

Bows. I’ll be signing autographs in the lobby.

“asked Muslims in New York to reconsider building a mosque at or very near the grounds of the 9/11 attacks?”
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A) You didn’t ask, you demanded.
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B) Its not a Mosque.
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C) It’s not at ground zero.
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Other than that…

It should also be noted that Rusty has accused the Iman behind the not-mosque that’s not at ground zero of supporting terrorist organizations and implying he’s anti-American.
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So, Rusty, I can’t imagine why you would think that “Please Don’t Tell Anyone…” is directed at you.
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Unless of course, the shoe fits.

B+
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A good effort. The overall tone and tenor was dead on, but there were not enough typos or ALL CAPS, and I don’t feel like I’ve been personally insulted enough times. Maybe sprinkle in a few ‘libtards’?

A. Lie
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B. Lie
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C. Lie

B- / C+
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I misspelled secretly -or- left out support [for] terrorism
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I also didn’t correctly use ‘?’, which I tend to do when typing quickly.
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Also, the point wasn’t to make fun of particular commentators here but the notions in general. For instance, it isn’t okay to build a mosque because it might offend family members of victims near the tragedy, but it is okay for people who might attend that mosque to defend those family members in the army. Clearly there is a disconnect here because people who consider themselves to be conservative really like the army, but can’t translate arguments between these two sample issues.
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Similarly, it is ok for gay people to defend this country. So long as they are “stealth” gays and no one knows it. I wonder how they would feel about a don’t ask/don’t tell policy on religion. Its all the same thing.

Rusty, in his own words, about the Mosque and those that support it:
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They need everyone to appear to be getting along because that is what allows them to continue to spread their lies. To allow them to continue their agenda of a one world order. A Global Community is the supreme goal for those who live in La-La Land. Once they have acheived this goal of shutting down any opposition, any questioning of their goals, then they will turn on those same people to demand they not only worship who they believe you should worship. You will also eat what they want you to eat. You will sleep when they want you to sleep. No longer is the choice yours, they will decide what is best for you.

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Does that sound like you were asking nicely? Does that sound like ‘live and let live”?
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Or is that a paranoid attack on anyone who doesn’t agree with you?

I have a suspicion quite a few of them would be for a don’t ask don’t tell policy on being Muslim,not on all religions of course since only Islam is terrorist. /snark

destor23,
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As a Veteran I have no problem with a Muslim chaplain and I am surprised that this is the first one.
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It’s sure nice to hear from a sane liberal on occasion. Unfortunately you are only one of maybe 2 or 3 on the swamp.

moment,
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Thanks for your thoughtful accurate post.
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With approx. 70% of Americans against the Islamic Center being so close to Ground Zero your comments Ring Hollow.
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Liberals who call 70% of their fellow citizens Racist, Ignorant, anti-Muslim, and bigots are the biggest bigots in the country. They have no common sense or are totally insane.

Xfire, why can these people defend us, but not pray where they choose?
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When were constitutional rights over ruled by majority opinion?

it is possible for a majority of Americans to be morally wrong. i think it has happened before. when a majority of Americans believed that blacks shouldn’t vote, i’d have to say that at that time, a majority of americans were bigoted or racist. and i doubt one would have told me that they were. sad, yes. unprecedented? um, no.

3x, you’re ok with a Muslim Chaplain, but you don’t believe he should be allowed to hold services within the same distance from ground zero as McDonalds and strip clubs?
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Do you see where that might be a disconnect?
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In America, all people are equal. There’s no asterisk that says “Muslim’s not included”

I don’t object to the decision. I just wish they hadn’t made the announcement so close to 9/11. They couldn’t wait a couple more weeks? Sheesh.

You see momentoad, you only come across as a loon. Where in my statement you quoted have I said anything about Muslims? Where in that statement do I say Muslims need everyone to appear to be getting along or Muslims want to continue their agenda of a one world order or Muslims want a Global community?
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Nope, doesn’t say that at all now does it momentoad.
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Twisting what people say into a different context is exactly what libtards do on a constant basis. Taking what other people who disagree with them, or challenge them by twisting the meaning of what they may have said is, and has been one of the ways libtards attack their opposition. Now that is a correct statement, isn’t that right momentoad?
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The same goes for all of the racist accusations. Way back sometime ago, people like you were calling all of us who are conservative, “racists”. Your little buddy IQ53 being the main cheerleader, along with the other libtard followers of his, little kevie, patricksartor to name just a few.
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You see momentoad, when you can no longer remember the truth, it is very difficult to come up with the actual statements or what was actually said in context, isn’t that right momentoad?
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It certainly doesn’t take long to trip up dimwitted dopeheads like you momentoad. You make life so easy sometimes, momentoad.

You are right about context, Rusty. I should have provided a link to your full rant about liberals and Muslims taking over the world.
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So here that is – Rusty: in all his glory.
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http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/08/03/re-more-on-the-mosque/#comment-187125

And for historical purposes, here’s not-racist Rusty’s (back when he was still rustyreturns) non-racist rant about ‘welfare Blacks’, a term he still hasn’t explained.
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http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/01/10/california-bust/#comment-122301

What I want to know is, why did it take so long? Or are there really no muslims in the army?

ftw!

And just how many weeks is enough!?!?!1

Again momentoad. The keyword is context.
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So far as welfare is concerned, Blacks make up less than 14% of the population and are almost 40% of all recipients, they represent about 2.5 times their actual population. Since Whites are over 50% of the total US pop., they represent less than their overall piece of the pie, population-wise, approximately 39%. Hispanics are at least 15% of the general population, so they take only about as much as what their population represents in welfare entitlements.
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Now how is that statement about including welfare blacks racist again?

Oh and I have also said here and other places momentoad, in context, that I would not be surprised if mostly, blacks supported the Democrat Party.
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Of course since nearly 40% are on some form of entitlement program, why would they want to kick the gift-horse (Democrats) in the mouth when they are receiving money back for their votes in the form of entitlement programs.
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But of course also in context, I also believe most blacks do not realize that the entitlement programs which blacks have become dependent on to just live, is a new form of slavery. A slavery to a political party which keeps them dependent upon government handouts.
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These entitlement programs do not produce an incentive, it just barely allows them to get by. So very sad to live in the greatest country in the world, but to be blinded and kept as slaves dependent on their liberal masters simply so that the liberals can get a vote from them every few years.

What will the Newt say?

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You truly are amazing. Way to make things up to fit your ignorant biases.

If you don’t hear what you want, the voices in your head will supply the details for you.

By the way, there are over 1400 mosques in the US.

There is no use addressing your ignorance on the issues regarding the proposed Mosque by Feisal Abdul Rauf. But maybe if you read this, it will silence the voices temporarily. Note paragraph 6.

Rauf just announced he will speak at a CAIR fundraiser.

CAIR supports terrorism.

http://www.danielpipes.org/394/cair-moderate-friends-of-terror

In reality, CAIR is something quite different. For starters, it’s on the wrong side in the war on terrorism. One indication came in October 1998, when the group demanded the removal of a Los Angeles billboard describing Osama bin Laden as “the sworn enemy,” finding this depiction “offensive to Muslims.”

The same year, CAIR denied bin Laden’s responsibility for the twin East African embassy bombings. As Hooper saw it, those explosions resulted from some vague “misunderstandings of both sides.” (A New York court, however, blamed bin Laden’s side alone for the embassy blasts.)

In 2001, CAIR denied his culpability for the Sept. 11 massacre, saying only that “if [note the "if"] Osama bin Laden was behind it, we condemn him by name.” (Only in December was CAIR finally embarrassed into acknowledging his role.)

CAIR consistently defends other militant Islamic terrorists too. The conviction of the perpetrators of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing it deemed “a travesty of justice.” The conviction of Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind sheikh who planned to blow up New York City landmarks, it called a “hate crime.” The extradition order for suspected Hamas terrorist Mousa Abu Marook it labeled “anti-Islamic” and “anti-American.”

Not surprisingly, CAIR also backs those who finance terrorism. When President Bush closed the Holy Land Foundation in December for collecting money he said was “used to support the Hamas terror organization,” CAIR decried his action as “unjust” and “disturbing.”
CAIR even includes at least one person associated with terrorism in its own ranks. On Feb. 2, 1995, U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White named Siraj Wahhaj as one of the “unindicted persons who may be alleged as co-conspirators” in the attempt to blow up New York City monuments. Yet CAIR deems him “one of the most respected Muslim leaders in America” and includes him on its advisory board.

For these and other reasons, the FBI’s former chief of counterterrorism, Steven Pomerantz, concludes that “CAIR, its leaders and its activities effectively give aid to international terrorist groups.”
Nor is terrorism the only disturbing aspect of CAIR’s record. Other problems include:

Intimidating moderate Muslims. In at least two cases (Hisham Kabbani and Khalid Durán), CAIR has defamed moderate Muslims who reject its extremist agenda, leading to death threats against them.
Embracing murderers. CAIR responded to the arrest and conviction of Jamil Al-Amin (the former H. Rap Brown) by praising him, raising funds for him and then denying his guilt after his conviction for the murder of an Atlanta policeman. Likewise with Ahmad Adnan Chaudhry of San Bernardino, Calif.: Disregarding his conviction for attempting murder, CAIR declared him “innocent” and set up a defense fund for him.
Promoting anti-Semitism. The head of CAIR’s Los Angeles office, Hussam Ayloush, routinely uses the term “zionazi” when referring to Israelis.

CAIR co-hosted an event in May 1998 at which an Egyptian militant Islamic leader, Wagdi Ghunaym, called Jews the “descendants of the apes.” Aggressive ambitions. As reported by the San Ramon Valley Herald, CAIR Chairman Omar M. Ahmad told a crowd of California Muslims in July 1998, “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran . . . should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.”

CAIR’s real record is one of extremism. North American Muslims themselves are beginning to discover – and the government, leading media, churches, and businesses should follow – that CAIR represents not the noble civilization of Islam but an aggressive and radical strain similar to that which led to the suicide hijackings last September. CAIR must be shunned as a fringe group by responsible institutions and individuals throughout North America

m0mentom0ri,
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I very interested in your reply to the above post by liberalmeltdown. Do you have facts to dispute his information?

Reading the comments of newdomblog and 3xfire it is not hard to understand why so few delegations walked out of the UN when Ahmadinejad made his claims of US complicity in the 9/11 attacks.
There is a philosophy in American politics that is clearly grounded in fear, is unable to engage in rational debate, and views any opposing view as a threat to the adherents’ very survival.
Seriously, is this any real way to live your life?

You won’t see any comments by momentoad on this very good assessment of our dear little Imam.
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Momentoad like most of the rest of the liberal commenters on this site, with the very very few exceptions of possibly stuartzechman only traffic in glib, and comical remarks. Very similar to what Democrats used as some sort of funny show they gave with Colbert on immigration.
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It is all about the big show. Under the big top for them. Make it as big a show as humanly possible, merely to distract people from the truth being told. When your whole ideology is based on a fractured policy, you have very little to work with. When your whole ideology is nothing but a big fat lie, being funny, telling jokes is all you have left. Well, beside accusing someone of being a racist of course, but now they have over-used that as well.
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I predict, liberalism and progressivism shall go back under-ground. They will have to put in at least 20 years hiding in the shadows as they did before, and then like the locust, out they will come spreading their nonsense once again on our children and grandchildren. They will give it a new shiny name. Call it something un-recognizable, but it will be back, count on it.